
Atypical 9to5
Celebrating autistic talent in the workplace, one story at a time.
Welcome to Atypical 9to5
Atypical 9to5 is a podcast celebrating autistic talent in the workplace, one story at a time. Join host Rayna Spasova-van Aalst as she explores the experiences of autistic professionals, the realities of the hiring process, and what true workplace inclusion looks like.
Each episode features conversations with autistic professionals, advocates, and companies championing neurodiverse talent. Whether you’re autistic, an ally, or simply curious, you’re in the right place.
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Latest Episodes
Discover the stories, insights, and best practices shaping a more inclusive working world.

Entrepreneurship & Autism: Finding Success on Your Own Terms with Jane McNeice
What does it take to build a successful business as an autistic entrepreneur? In this episode of Atypical 9to5, host Rayna Spasova - van Aalst speaks with Jane McNeice, a late-diagnosed autistic business owner, trainer, and author. Jane shares her journey into self-employment, the impact of late diagnosis on her career, and how autistic strengths can drive entrepreneurial success.
Challenging Norms: Dr. Julie Eshleman on Disability, Equity, and Leadership
What does it mean to challenge norms around disability and inclusion? In this episode of Atypical 9to5, Dr. Julie Eshleman, an autistic professional and disability research consultant, shares her experiences navigating the workplace, advocating for equity, and redefining leadership in inclusion. She and host Rayna Spasova - van Aalst discuss self-advocacy, accommodations, and breaking down misconceptions about autism and disability in professional spaces.
🎧 Listen now to explore how challenging norms can lead to a more inclusive and equitable workplace.

Breaking Stereotypes: Iris Brugman on Thinking Divergently and Embracing Neurodiversity
What does it mean to find power in thinking divergently? In this episode, Iris Brugman, an autistic social designer, shares her journey of breaking stereotypes, fostering inclusion, and creating impactful designs. Listen now to explore the challenges and opportunities for neurodiverse professionals in the workplace.